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Vox Day errs on romantic love and women.

Written: 2025-06-17/18
Addition: 2025-10-04
Addition: 2025-10-07
Addition: 2025-10-27

It seems as if he thought that the second paragraph was Langan’s comment, too: voxday.net/2024/08/11/a-backhanded-compliment

The thing is that what he writes is a lie. His wife is intelligent, as he told Jesse L. Peterson in his show. (What Does It Mean to Have High IQ? Vox Day, Christian Alt-Right Writer on Trump, Putin, Brexit, SJWs.)

His son is a mathematician, as he once said on a Darsktream (I don’t remember which one.) Since intelligence is hereditary to a high degree, his wife certainly does not have an IQ of 75.

Not only is IQ hereditary, a mother with an IQ of 120 would most likely do a better job at raising children. It is highly questionable that there is no difference between a woman with IQ 75 and 120. With exceptions like drug addiction, someone with an IQ of 120 may be more capable in handling everyday life.

What’s worse, though, is that Langan is simply smarter. Way smarter. I don’t believe Langan would accept Vox Day lecturing him on such matters. And why would he? In this interview, he says that he finds intelligence important in a woman, sexy even (around 02:07:50): Chris Langan: The Most In-Depth Interview with the World’s Smartest Man

My transcription from around 02:08:16 to 02:09:00:

I got myself a very intelligent woman. Beautiful, too. […] I have always been attracted to intelligent women. To me, intelligence is sexy. It makes a woman more of a woman. Not that a woman who is not so intelligent can’t be sexy. That’s far from the case, but it is always something to which I was attracted in a female. So, this is one of the reasons that I held out for her. I was single for most of my life, up until I was about nearly fifty years old.

So-called assortative mating might be at work in most cases anyway, except for extreme cases of lasciviousness (i.e., Vox Day’s?)

He then gets asked about his vices, talking about his hot temper. According to Vox Day, alphas and sigmas are the opposite. I rather think that this is hogwash anyway; what some call ZFG—“zero f*cks given”—almost seems psychopathic.

Vox Day once even suspected that he might exhibit psychopathic traits

It is simply a stupid century, a horrible time to be alive. This degeneracy would not have been allowed to be published anyway. People did not openly talk about happy relationships, which already implies an ungodly, promiscuous lifestyle.

All in all, I think this has finished it for me. I mean, since Vox Day needs to accept Langan as his intellectual superior, as he likes to say, there is little reason to think that Langan errs regarding his preference for intelligent women. I remember reading that his wife Gina has an IQ of around 168.

So she is Vox Day’s intellectual superior, too.

This world only exists because God the Father forces us to live, which includes our disgusting origins – a slap in the face, as Andy Nowicki called it in his Considering Suicide


(2025-10-04): [Topic]

He says he was tested, which is why he claims that he is highly empathetic. The fact that this sounds insane is because he knows that he appears as if he is a psychopath. Even his children told him his advice often sounds as if he is a sociopath.

The average person understands being empathetic to be someone who cares about other people. Vox Day, on the other hand, claims it means he is able to read people’s emotions, while not caring about them.

This is not what being “empathetic” means. God cared about man, for example, which is why He became man. Not sure who Vox Day is trying to fool here, but this, again, is where he greatly errs.

He has influence, which is why people need to be able to criticize this. That he introduced the term sigma may or may not be the case – it just shows how stupid people are to take this seriously. It’s as if one may claim to be important because one has had influence as a pop musician. No, such influence is not only unimportant, it is bad, if not evil influence.

Since I never had interest in such deranged topics like his socio-sexual hierarchy, which is a kind of revenge of those without importance against those who are – after all, Vox Day’s IQ alone is nothing impressive in itself. However, he can now claim that thinker A or writer B was really a gamma. As if I care what “rank” geniuses were in his laughable hierarchy.

It’s as if one claims to be more athletic than some great composer – who cares! We don’t.


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In his Darkstream: The Price of Gatekeeping - Vox Day Darkstream 1143 he claims that Clayton Atreus was a kind of gamma! That is insane. Given that Atreus, as annoying this guy was, got into fights, had many women and so on. Since Gammas are repulsive to women, as Vox Day claims, how can this be?

Only if this “hierarchy” is actually nothing but psycho-babble by someone who knows he seems like a nerd to people but wants to be a “tough guy”. Which is why he not only brags about his past “conquests” and how tall all the women were he “dated”—“dating” did not exist in Christendom—, but also trained in a “dojo”.

This is subjective, like almost all of psychology. We are not talking about mechanical engineering here. Which is why everyone has his own idea of what these ranks are to mean.

He admits to being very much asocial, living alone, even his wife is seen as a “lone wolf” where he lives – his wife even said that the social contacts he has are almost forced upon Vox Day.

In the Darkstream A Spiral of Sigmas - VoxDay Darkstream 1.17.24 Sub 2 Vox’s new stack https://sigmagame.substack.com/, he derided Eric S. Raymond (esr) for writing he’s a natural alpha. It’s also brilliant how, in this Darkstream, accuses people of narcissism, as if his own idea of this stuff is objective and not mired by his own ego. Even go so far as to defining what “top tier”, or even “tier two or tier three” women are.

Vox Day: this is lust, it is irrational, it is subjective. There is no objective beauty standard. This is laughable, he really thinks we are all lusting after the women he likes.

In his substack, a he commented that he peaked at the age of twenty-three. He drove a Porsche at twenty-one. With money made from pop music?

He also claims that this is applicable to past societies, even as far back as ancient Greece. He just reads this into it, thinking that in the past, status could be “acquired”. No. As I wrote earlier, status was passed down to you. And then it did not matter if you were a “gamma” or “alpha” in behaviour. After all, who cared about a peasant with alpha traits?

That the word sigma is not naturally cool or gamma naturally lame term is irrelevant. “Gay” has been hijacked as well – unlike gamma, homosexuals called themselves gay. Gamma, on the other hand, has been used in an insulting way right from the start.

It is also wrong to say they have “come” to be cool or negative because of what they are being used to describe. To which I reply, no, it is your subjective value you attach to such behaviour. As I wrote above, not taking off your sunglasses is rude and is seen as negative.

Language does not work this way anyway, since the media did not exist in the past. A Luther and Goethe had more influence on language than such geniuses could have today. Jose Mourinho would be a gamma, not a sigma. He is living in a fantasy world.

What then follows regarding women in college and how this affects marriage rates seems to be correct, especially the bit that intelligence by itself is not valued as much as a college education. However, saying intelligence does not turn you into a better person is wrong. After all, being athletic and good-looking makes you popular, but does not turn you into a better person either. It may be worse, being popular could fuel your ego.

In some other Darkstream on the @JudeoChrist channel, Vox Day said Raymond wrote getting IOIs—“indicators of interest”, stupid internet lingo—from women when he is in a restaurant. To which VD replied that they may simply think he may give them a tip (or so), since they are not interested in his “small programmer ass”.

But why wouldn’t they? If Vox Day did not lack for attention of highly attractive women—in his eyes—starting at age sixteen, then why not Raymond, too? After all, Vox Day is around 176 centimeters tall and not a Cary Grant either. In VD’s hierarchy, esr may then be a sigma.

But even here, Vox Day is, again, blind to reality. After all, the women Raymond met at science fiction conventions and renaissance fairs are more likely to be higher IQ than women one finds in bars. Yet, if IQ is hereditary and important, it is such women who should have more children. It’s not as if most models are members of Mensa or the Triple Nine Society.

In some other Darkstream, he said he met an alpha once, whose wife, while attractive, was not as attractive as his … This guy wanted Vox Day to take off his sunglasses, since he does not like not being able to see people’s eyes. To which Vox Day simply replied with a “no”.

Which means that all this hierarchy nonsense is about being impolite, rude and simply childish. He’d say, obviously, it’s about dominance, yet in a civilization, you don’t need this. You can’t have your cake and eat it, too: you either have a civilization, which includes good breeding, or you have to put up with the law of the jungle and other nonsense.

The reason one critiques this is that it’s childish to call people names, and gamma or nerd or whatever is just that. Argue the issue at hand and stop throwing such terms around, which is nothing but rhetoric.

Maybe the reason people react in such a hostile manner to Vox Day specifically is his arrogance. VD also often forgets to stress that it’s fractal in nature.

Funnily enough, though, Owen Benjamin said he is the textbook alpha male, while Vox Day calls him a “bravo”. So it’s chaotic and subjective and just awful idiocy people obsessing about money and women force on all people – even as far back as Ancient Athens!

While Vox Day is also a Christian and did great work on attacking the “New Atheists” and SJWs, this side of him is tiring and annoying. Especially since Chris Langan is even four standard deviations above Vox Day’s IQ and way less of an idiot in this regard.

Some of us simply don’t care; I am more in awe of great geniuses, I don’t care at all what a Goethe or Dante is in Vox Day’s unimportant hierarchy, which is just a way for the intellectual unimportant to take revenge on brilliant geniuses. After all, it is of no importance if Beethoven or Bruckner were gammas. They were geniuses.


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On his sigmagame substack, Vox Day claims that Nietzsche was a gamma, a man with no accomplishments of note who was repulsive to women! This is insane – in another post about his AI music, he writes that less people are willing to support him in this endeavor, that most people don’t care about this, or don’t have the knowledge to truly understand his music.

Now, pop music is just pop music. It was a post about confidence; that one ought not to put too much weight on people’s judgement. Even those who understood that it was an achievement to be signed on the record label he was signed on – a gay label …? – and to play on First Avenue. (Who cares?)

Now the obvious question: how is it not an achievement to become the youngest professor in Germany at a time when educational standards were much, much higher than today – but decadent pop music is?

Of course, Filotto hates Schopenhauer just like Vox Day does. Vox Day calls him a gamma – yawn – and that he wanted women out of his league – thinking that such matters are not irrational and driven by lust. There is no league, no thinking involved here. He also consulted Wikipedia for Schopenhauer’s biography. Is he serious? He thought Schopenhauer was not fluent in a language he wanted to translate from, which is not the case.

Schopenhauer was one of the most brilliant writers in the German language. Tolstoy also read him. It rather seems to me that Vox Day’s thinking is clouded by his sex obsession. He ended his immature and laughable blogpost with “never take any advice from someone who failed at life.”

Failed at life: now that’s one of the stupidest, crudest phrases to use. Interestingly enough, Bruce Charlton also rejects this socio-sexual hierarchy inanity, and Charlton, while understanding Nietzsche’s negative influence, does not dismiss him in the same immature and childish manner Vox Day did.

Filotto apparently had been saying for twenty years that no one ought to pay any attention to Schopenhauer. No, Kurgan: no one should pay attention to your trash. Giuseppe “Ludwig Denzinger” Filotto is a joke and will always be one, he is not an intellectually serious author and jealous of authors who were verbally a thousand times more gifted.

This socio-sexual hierarchy drags it all to their level, reduces it to sex, almost Freudian.


Closing the book with Don Colacho:

A high “intelligence quotient” is indication of distinguished mediocrity.

The problem is not sexual repression, nor sexual liberation, but sex.

In the end, there is no area of the soul sex would not succeed in corrupting.

Sins that appear “splendid” from afar are from close up nothing more than small sordid episodes.

It is not worth talking about even one erotic topic with someone who does not feel the unalterable baseness of erotism.

It is above all against what the crowd proclaims to be “natural” that the noble soul rebels.

What we discover as we age is not the vanity of everything, but of almost everything.

Despite what is taught today, easy sex does not solve every problem.

By merely looking at the face of the modern man one infers the mistake in attributing ethical importance to his sexual behavior.

Modern man’s life oscillates between two poles: business and sex.